Voici la derniere version du document sur les cd-roms sur Atari. Vous pouvez me contacter pour des erreurs ou des additions a l'adresse suivante: BRARDA@vxclia.cern.ch Quand j'aurais trouve le temps, je ferai une version francaise ainsi que des versions pou le World Wide Web. Loic ---- New since last version : - Egon CD-Utilities - COMPO Power CD - 2nd CD from Bernd Lohrum - M.O.S.T. viewer for Compton CDs Updates since last version : - MetaDos v. 2.4 ATARI CD-ROM FAQ ---------------- 12/07/1994 1 - What driver should I use with my Atari system ? There are several drivers available : MetaDos : Free software from Atari Corp. Available from atari.archive.umich or ftp.muenster.de (metads24.zip) The filesystem drivers support ISO9660 and High Sierra CDs, but not multisession CDs. The device driver only works for the Atari CDAR504 connected to the ACSI bus or with generic SCSI CD-ROMs connected to the TT SCSI port. (Answer from Julian Reschke) CDROM.XFS : Free software (Copyright 1992,1993,1994 Eric R. Smith, Michael Bernards u. Gunther Leis) Available from atari.archive.umich and other ftp sites. This driver is a Mint extended filesystem and works on TTs and Falcons. CDROM.XFS version <0.7 does not work with Mint/Multitos > 1.04. The current version (0.7) is said to work on Mint/Multitos > 1.04. It seems to be true on TTs but it does not work with any Mint version on my Falcon. CD-Tools : Commercial solution from Hard & Soft, Obere Muensterstrasse 33-35, D-44575 Castrop-Rauxel, Germany, Phone: ++49 2305 18014, Fax: ++49 2305 32463 Includes MetaDOS with GEM-based installation program, audio player with PCM audio data import (only some drives) and custom devices and filesystem drivers (support for Atari CDAR504 and generic CD-ROMs connected to ACSI through host adapter, TT-SCSI, Falcon-SCSI, multisession support (only some drives)). (Answer from Julian Reschke) With CD-Tools, you also have a GDPS module and the program Scan-It that can handle Photo-CD Pictures. CD-Tools is in German and costs 99 DM. ExtenDOS v1.11: Commercial solution from Anodyne Software, 6 Cobbler Court, Ottawa, Ontario K1V 0B8, Canada. Available in UK : System Solutions. Support ST, STe, Mega, TT, and Falcon. Read ISO9660 and High_Sierra CD-ROMs. It now runs just fine under MultiTOS with no restrictions; memory protect is OK, and you can run programs directly from CD. It also runs fine with Mag!X 2.01, with the restriction that the EXTENDOS.CNF file must be in the root directory. Extendos v1.11 costs $29.95(North America). (Information updated by Roger Burrows / Anodyne Software) F030_CD : Fairware from Peter Hilbring, Dietrich Ottmar Strae 16, 59597 Erwitte, Germany Available on ftp.tu-clausthal.de (/pub/atari/falcon/systools/f030_cd.zip) This package includes a BOS driver for MetaDOS, MetaDOS 2.3, a low level SCSI driver (TT & FALCON) and a program named cd_explorer as exemple of the access of the low level driver. (Info from Vincent Lefevre) I've just tried these drivers on my falcon with an Apple CD-300 cdrom and it works without problem. ICD Pro : Old versions came with a MetaDOS driver named ICDCDROM.BOS. The new ones comes with a mint extended filesystem. Egon CD-Utilities : Commercial solution from ???; Available from several german shops (Softhansa Gmbh, Untersbergstr. 22, 81539 Munchen, Tel : 089/6972206, Fax : 6924830) Multisession MetaDos driver with audio-CD player. Egon CD-Utilities costs 79 DM. If you have some experience with this new driver, mail me. 2 - What discs are available ? There are five Atari specific CD-ROMs : GEMini CD-ROM : From Walnut Creek CDROM, Suite 260, 1547 Palos Verdes Mall, Walnut Creek, CA 94596, USA, Phone: +1 510 674-0783, Fax: +1 510 674-0821, Email: info@cdrom.com, Ftp: ftp.cdrom.com Available in Germany from Ingenieurburo Praefcke, Holtzvogtkamp 55, 24220 Flintbeck, Phone: (04347) 7531. You can find the index of the GEMini CD-ROM on atari.archive.umich.edu. Bernd Lohrum CD-ROM : From Bernd Lohrum, Schlossbergstrasse 36, D-66440 Blieskastel, Germany, Phone: (0171) 4210222 There are two CDs from Bernd Lohrum : Drachenstarke software : 300 Mb Tigerstarke software : 500 Mb Each CD-ROM costs 69 DM (59 DM for MAUS net users). Wohlfahrtstatter CD-ROM : From Wohlfahrtstatter, Irenenstr. 76c, D-40468 Dusseldorf, Germany, Phone: (0211)429876. This CD-ROM costs 89 DM. Power CD Volume 1 : From Compo. This CD-ROM costs 79 DM. You can also use all the ISO-9660 CDs that exists for the PCs. You won't run the PC programs but you will access all the text, pictures, and sound files on it. The discs already tried are : Corel Artshow 91 : ~ 1000 scans of paintings (like Manet, Van Gogh, ...) in 16 and 256 colors PCX files; All the images from the 91 Corel draw contest in CDR and DIB format; some midi files. The PCX and DIB files can be read with Dieter Fiebelkorn's Gem-View 3.xx . Clipart Warehouse Compton's New Media M.O.S.T. CD-Roms : Doctor's Book of Home Remedies KGB-CIA World Fact Book The Pill Book The King James Bible U.S. Presidents You can view all these M.O.S.T. CDs with Brian Grier Perkp's program. (MOST.ZIP, the demo version is on ftp at Atari.archive.umich.edu). 3 - Can I use Photo-CD on my Atari ? Of course You can ! To have full use of the photo-cds, you'll need a multi-sessions drive and driver and also a program that can handle PCD files. CD-TOOLS : The driver from Hard & Soft can read multi-sessions discs and have all the needed stuff to handle the Photo-CDs. ColorDisc PCD : Commercial software from Color Concept, Im Alten Breidt 4, D-53797 Lohmar Breidt, Germany, Phone: (02246) 7132 This program allows you to manipulate the photos on your Photo-CDs, and save them on hard-disc. It handles Portfolio CDs. If my understanding is good, it works with metados and a special BOS file (both included). It also includes a CD-Audio player. A demo version is available at ftp.tu-clausthal.de. ColorDisc PCD works on TTs and Falcons and costs 99 DM. Studio Photo : Commercial software from Eurosoft. This french program can manipulate Photo-CDs. Gemview v3.xx : Shareware from Dieter Fiebelkorn, Grner Weg 29a, W4370 Marl-Brassert, Germany, Email : fiebelko@bonny.informatik.uni-dortmund.de Gemview is also capable of handling PhotoCD's. Only in two resolutions (Base and Base/4 I think) 4 - Can I play Audio-CDs on my Atari ? Of course You can ! The following programs are available : CD-TOOLS : The driver from Hard & Soft includes a player for CD-Audio discs. The drive must understand SCSI2 instructions(Or CDAR504 or the Apple CD150). . ColorDisc PCD : It also includes an audio Player. Audio CD Master 3.0 : Commercial software from It's All Relative Software, 2233 Keeven Lane, Florissant, MO 63031, USA. This program can play CD-Audio discs on SCSI2 and Nec drives. On falcon and with some drives, it allows you to control and pipe your CD audio sound into the Falcon for DSP effects using software like the Audio Fun Machine that comes with your Falcon 030. Audio CD Master 3.0 costs $29.99 US, postpaid, worldwide. Audio CD player 2.0 : Older shareware version of Audio CD Master 3.0 from Nima Montaser, P.O. Box 52127, Ottawa, Ont. K1N 5S0, Canada Does not work on my falcon. 5 - How do I program the CD-ROM drive ? Some bindings exists to access the cd-rom drive. They can be found on ftp.muenster.de (under \pub\atari\Programming\CDBIND01.ZIP). They can be only used with some drivers (CD-TOOLS can be used, CDROM.XFS not). 5 - Appendix A These are some users configurations : ------------------------------------------------------------------ TT, MultiTOS 1.04, CDROM.XFS TT, MultiTOS 1.08/9, CDROM.XFS v.0.7 TT, MetaDOS These do not work: TT, MultiTOS 1.08/9, CDROM.XFS < 0.7 TT, MultiTOS, MetaDOS Drive : NEC Multispin, external (84-1). Discs : GEMini Atari CD ROM from Walnut Creek Clipart Warehouse ------------------------------------------------------------------ MSTE -> ICD MicroSCSI -> ICD AdSCSI+ -> NEC CDR-37 but the first host adapter in the chain has nothing to do with driving the CD-ROM, its for a hard disk. The AdSCSI+ also has a hard disk running from it as well as the CD-ROM Drive : NEC CDR-37 Software : ICDCDZ2.XFS as supplied on the ICD Pro utilities disk. This only seems to work under MiNT <= 1.04. None of the other freely available CD-ROM drivers (MetaDOS etc.) seem to work. I haven't tried Extendos or CD-Tools. For audio playing, I'm using Nima Montasser's 'Audio CD Master 3v0'. This is the commercial release of the AUD_CD20.ACC audio CD player. Both work fairly well for me, but I haven't got all the features to work yet. In order to CD Player configuration to work (the default NEC CDR-37 one didn't work! with AUD_CD20.ACC ) I contacted NEC(UK). They very kindly sent me a copy of their 'SCSI 1 Spec' free of charge. This is a 90 page photocopied document which lists all the SCSI 1 commands for a CD-ROM and what they do. I'm sure its pretty out of date now, especially as NEC must be onto SCSI 2 by now. I used the SCSI.PRG from the ICD Pro disk to send SCSI commands to the CD-ROM to get the combination right. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Atari Falcon030, 4MB RAM, 127MB Internal IDE drive, 270MB external SCSI drive, Viper 105S Tape Streamer. Drive : NEC 2xi Non-working drivers: MetaDOS 2.3 (no BOS drivers for Falcon). ICD Pro Utilities (didn't see the drive at all). Atari CDROM driver, v0.6 (gave read errors). Working drivers : ExtenDOS v1.11 (commercial, available in the UK from Systems Solutions, price about 30 pounds). Discs : Gemini Atari CD-ROM. Cover disk from a PC CD-ROM magazine. The files read OK, but obviously the PC-specific executables do not run. I got loads of TIF pictures etc off of this disk. The NEC 2xi is about the same price as an Apple CD300 (160 pounds + VAT). But people seem to have had less hassle getting the Apple drive running. I chose the NEC because is an internal drive, so slotted into my mini-tower comfortably. ------------------------------------------------------------------ TT030 4 Mb ST Ram, 4 Mb TT Ram, 210 Mb HD Mint (1.04) + MultiTOS Drive: NEC 210 (also known as NEC55j?) (double speed SCSI internal drive) Driver: CD-Tools 1.08 from Hard&Soft Computerzubehor GmbH DOS discs tried: - The Best of Demo (Comptec Multimedia) contains lots of GIF/BMP/MOD/TXT files - Monster Media issue 2 1993 (by Monster Media?) contains also lot's of GIF/BMP/MOD/TXT files - TOP 101 shareware programs (came along with the drive) hardly usable, only DOS stuff. - Music Box 1994 (Powersource inc) tons of MOD and VOC (about same as WAV) sound files. Atari discs tried: - DTP Grafiken (by Werbedesign Schutz) contains tons of clipart files in IMG and (DOS) PCX format, disc was made for Atari and DOS Other drivers I've tried are several earlier releases of Metados from Atari, a modified Metados for the Falcon and some XFS drivers for Mint/MultiTOS (ICD and Atari). Most of them work OK but for some discs (for example the DTP Grafiken disc) the older drivers cannot cope with the large amount of files in a subdirectory (with DTP Grafiken there are folders with over 700 files!) Clicking on the folder icon just doesn't open the folder... The driver from Hard&Soft seems to work for all of my current CD-ROM discs. The XFS driver for Mint/MultiTOS is slow... The Metados drivers seem to buffer much more data, problem with Metados is that it's supposed NOT to work with Mint/MultiTOS. However, I haven't got any problems yet. ------------------------------------------------------------------ TT030, MetaDos, Apple CD300 But it seems that the TT does not recognize a media change, and I get some "not-responding" messages. After clicking the loading is performed perfectly. >I chose the NEC because is an internal drive, so slotted into my >mini-tower comfortably. It is very easy to remove the Apple CD300 from it's casing. It just holds an Sony CDROM player which can then be mounted in a tower without any problems. (I've done so) The casing can then be used to hold a old HardDisk which was left over from a upgrade to be able to transfer data between friends (Works perfectly!) PS. I bought my Apple CD300 here in the NL for about Fl.470,- which is ca. $250 ------------------------------------------------------------------ TT, MagiX 2.00, MetaDOS 2.30 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks to all the users that mailed me their experience.